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so obviously there's been some interest

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in water in this conference and I wanted

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to summarize some of the research that

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I've done with water and intent and I

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guess it's the pictures a nicely clear

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you can see the picture on the left

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where the man's intent - you can see

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I'll turn it off right right don't turn

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it off you can see that he's standing on

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a cover here and his intent is obviously

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to get the water to go out and through

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the hole whereas in this slide the

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picture on the right the intent of the

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water perhaps is more interesting than

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the intent of the man who's like a

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little small little guy over there yeah

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anyway so in this context I wanted to

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just introduce the anomalous effect of

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electromagnetic field on water because

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there is a scientific rationale and

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basis for looking at the effects of

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intention and consciousness on water if

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in fact we can make parallels between

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the energy of consciousness and the

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energy of an electromagnetic field and

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it turns out that in as early as the

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1960s when when Russian scientists

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started looking at the physical effects

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on the physical properties of water that

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were induced as a result of exposure to

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an electromagnetic field sorry what's

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particularly important here is that

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these physical effects are observed

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after you turn off the stimulus so in

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fact the water seems to remember the

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fact that it was exposed to an

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electromagnetic field in my own research

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back into the 90s which it experiment I

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did with actually Bill tiller we looked

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at the difference between a magnetic

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field I mean the B component of a

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magnetic field and the magnetic vector

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potential which for those physicists in

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the audience it turns out that the a

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field is an important component for

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storing and structuring of water but

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moving on the list now is pretty long of

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the physical kinds of changes that can

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occur in water exposed

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- an electromagnetic field and since

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we've been talking about oxygen content

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in the previous slide that's I think of

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interest that the oxygen content in the

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water can change now in the Bible

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electromagnetic society they've been

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studying the effects of electromagnetic

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fields on biological systems for many

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years again it was the Russians who

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decided well maybe these effects are

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mediated by water as Gary had alluded in

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his talk and what they did was they

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exposed water to an electromagnetic

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field and then added the treated water

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to cells in culture in this particular

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experiment kidney cells they which are

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exposed to a magnetic field a very high

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frequency magnetic field 42 gigahertz

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and then they were able to measure the

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change in the electro physiological

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properties of these cells in particular

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the opening and closing of the potassium

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channel which you can see on the bottom

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is very much enhanced by the information

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stored in the water you can see this

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effect as much as twenty minutes after

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the exposure so this clearly is an

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anomaly in terms of any kind of physics

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to explain this phenomenon now that's

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the background of course here we're more

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interested in effects of intention on

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water so we start with can intention

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also change the physical properties of

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water

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Douglas Dean first did these experiments

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back in 1983 Stephen Schwartz followed

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by similar kind of experiments using you

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know various forms of spectroscopy to

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measure the change in the water I did

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some similar experiments in nineteen

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forty 1994 and published it in JSC as it

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happens my first introduction to the

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society and I did some other experiments

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with Raman spectroscopy is unpublished

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and of course we all know dr. emoto's

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work changing the crystallization

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patterns of water exposed to in

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tenshun so I wanted to elaborate more on

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my experiments because not only can you

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change the the structural properties of

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water but when you add these water this

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water to a biological system you can

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influence the biological system just as

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has been done with an electromagnetic

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field the first series of experiments

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that I did was when I was working at the

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Institute of heart math and we were

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demonstrated that water could change the

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in fact ultraviolet absorption

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spectroscopy was used which actually

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measures the oxygen content of the water

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added that treated water water treated

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with the intention of love the loving

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intention to just actually it wasn't an

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intention to a specifically affect the

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water the intention was just to be in a

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loving state and direct that intention

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to the water that water when it was

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added to DNA actually caused the DNA to

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wind and of those of you who were here

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last year heard the summary of my

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research on DNA as a target for direct

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healing intention but in this particular

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case it was through the mediator through

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water since dean radin is in this

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audience I don't really want to

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elaborate on his experiments but he

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repeated the Emoto experiments and was

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able to show that water treated with

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positive intentions were perceived

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differently the aesthetic appeal was

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different when you when you looked at

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the images that were structured by the

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background information that you can

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transfer the intention that is stored in

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different model system in this case it's

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experiments that are going with

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lymphocyte proliferation by

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experiments but more the ones with tumor

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cells in this case the water was treated

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and then with that water you make tissue

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culture medium and you add that tissue

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culture medium to the cells and measure

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the growth of tumor cells just to be

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technical here's the detailed

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explanation the tumor cells were split

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into twelve petri dishes

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half were treated and half were nine

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treated simultaneously in a second room

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with a non healer who was mimicking the

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action of the healer kind of doing this

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with their hands and trying to simulate

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what was going on the treatment was a

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15-minute treatment the experiment was

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done blindly the the the treated tissues

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were blind blindly labeled so that when

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I actually did the experiment I didn't

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know which was which actually there were

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two kinds of experiments done either

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direct experiments where the healer

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treated the tumor cells directly or

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where they treated the water the cells

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were harvested and DNA fraction was

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obtained and then what you basically

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measure is the amount of radioactive

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thymidine incorporated into DNA compared

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to the total amount of protein which is

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a measure cell growth if there are

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biochemists in the this audience one of

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the few audiences I talked to where

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there are biochemists great so that

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there's the protocol the particular

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healer that I used was Leonard Lascaux

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who's written a book called healing with

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love and he was actually able to with

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the aid of meditation obtain certain

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transpersonal states of consciousness

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where he could actually obtain different

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intentions he had in these particular

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experiments he used three different

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intentions one was for the cells now

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they remember these are tumor cells to

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return to the natural order in harmony

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of their normal non tumorous state

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tension number two was unconditioned

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love with no specific direction to the

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cells and intention number three was the

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release of disease energy into the void

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if any healers in the audience this

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would kind of make sense for well you

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love but anyway this is the kind of

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healing intentions that he used with his

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okay so the first results were obtained

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when I want to show you the difference

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between direct and indirect treatment

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kind of the question that I had asked

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Gary so when I say indirect I mean the

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the water was treated and then the water

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was given to the cells and the on the

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inhibition of growth so the tumor cells

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slowed down their growth in all cases

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quite similar 25 percent versus 38

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percent the direct versus indirect yes

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intention was the return to the natural

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order when you change the intention you

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get a very different pattern you see an

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effect when the water is treated but you

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don't see in effect directly when this

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intention is directed toward the toward

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the tumor cells now we can discuss this

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anomaly for me this is not at all what I

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expected so this can't be an

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experimenter effect and this effect was

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seen with with the loving intention and

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it was seen with the dematerialization

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intention but it was not obtained with

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the return to the natural order so this

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unexplained i I really don't have an

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explanation other than to say that

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certainly intentions resonate with water

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in a different way and can be stored in

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a different way and therefore have an it

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in a different way so this is you know

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the whole purpose of being in this kind

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of society this is unpublished data but

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there clearly is a an effect on the

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different intentions so that is my

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conclusion that the healing effects can

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be direct or they can be indirect that

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water seems to mediate the effects water

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in this case is storing the information

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minutes as I said but the biological

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system is reading the information stored

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in the water over 24 hour period because

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period it seems that some intentions are

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quite effective and some are not

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effective there's a difference between

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direct and indirect and it seems that

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there's a lot of unknown phenomena

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anomalous phenomena occurring okay since

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to address the possible mechanisms how

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this phenomena could be occurring now

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what our memory is actually it's

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scientific literature that water can

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remember heat exposure that's thermal

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memory and that's known that the

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vibration and rotation modes of the

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molecule there's even a phenomena called

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hydration memory which is in the

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peer-reviewed journals in this case the

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activity it has more to do with the

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ability of the chemical to structure the

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water than it does with the chemical

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structure of the additive which is a

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interesting phenomena so in additional

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to the traditional mechanisms we have

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non-traditional mechanism

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and we've talked which I heard a little

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bit about the hydrogen bond this

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afternoon which is which allows water to

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form clusters and this is one possible

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mechanism except for the fact that these

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clusters kind of disappear and disappear

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and flicker on and off so if the

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information was to be stored in the

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structure as soon as the structure

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dissipates you would think the

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information would just dissipate along

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with it so I'm not sure that's the best

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of explanations there are various other

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explanations I think the most likely

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explanation is the one that was proposed

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by del Giudice a couple of years ago

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where he described quantum domains in

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water so in addition to having these

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structural clusters of water we have

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quantum domains which are described in

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terms of quantum fields within the

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quantum domains and coherent

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oscillations between the coherent

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domains so it seems to me that that's

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one likely possible explanation because

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of the quantum nature of consciousness

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so I'm throwing that out as possible

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mechanisms there are other mechanisms

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involved these superconducting filaments

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and solet ons and for all the physicists

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in the audience obviously there are a

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lot of theories out but very little bit

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of correlation between the theory and

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the experimental data since I have 30

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seconds left I want to thank you for

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okay so we really have five minutes

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has anyone looked at the investigated

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the the law the other logical

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possibility that just an intentional

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effects on tumor growth could be in the

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negative direction to increase the tumor

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growth rate yes from other experiments

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that I've done with with the same healer

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where we were more focusing on direct

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experiments there these were not

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actually done at a distance they were

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done in the lab and the healer just laid

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his hands on the water but depending on

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his intention yes he could inhibit the

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growth if he visualized the endpoint was

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you know fewer cells in the petri dish

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the actual growth was I mean more

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actually the opposite more cells he

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could actually stimulate the growth as

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well as inhibit the growth depending on

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the intention a Glenn two quick

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questions um could you comment on the

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level of purity the water a and B the

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second question is would hydration

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memory be most like a homeopathic

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dilution well first question is easy it

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was deionized water standard laboratory

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water that we use to measure to use to

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make tissue culture medium hydration

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memory and homeopathy hmm I have to

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think about that yeah I hadn't actually

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thought about that but that's a very

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feasible explanation because it's the

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presence of a chemical which actually

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structures the water and then has a

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resultant effect so yes that that's a

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very feasible mechanism for homeopathy a

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question if I understand correctly

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you've shown that intention affects the

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structure of water right and you've also

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shown in other experiments that

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intention applied to water or to a

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subject effects

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healing produces healing an effect on

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the biological system correct but the so

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the question still remains is that the

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structure in the water that produces the

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healing when that water is is is given

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to the what needs to be healed or is it

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just a direct effect of that intention

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and the water could have been applying

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the intention to that lamp instead and

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it still would have healed that person

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so it seems to me the way to really

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prove that it's the water structure that

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has done the healing and not just the

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intention directly would be to show for

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example that the degradation of the

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structure in the water correlates in

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time with the degradation of the healing

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power or something like that has

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anything like that been done the degra

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we don't know how long it lasts in

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compared to the electromagnetic exposure

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which we know lasts about 20 minutes to

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a half an hour have I looked at that

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much the no III do not know how long it

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lasts and I have not made any such

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correlations and no nobody has done

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those kind of experiments and a few

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scientists who do these kind of

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experiments usually first looking at the

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phenomenological aspects of it you know

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the phenomena is you know that water

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seems to be able to carry the

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information of intent and once you have

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that phenomena then you can go into much

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more details the first attempt at even

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looking at the mechanism is to say is

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there a structural change in the water

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that correlates with the storage of the

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information so that's the first attempt

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and obviously there's a lot more

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experiments to do Glenn would you share

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with us the difference between the Sham

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healing of the water as well as the

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cells I didn't see that clearly

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represented in your slides maybe I

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missed something

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okay the the experiment the tumor cells

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were split into two batches of cells six

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petri dishes and six petri dishes and I

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had a second person independently bring

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the

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mention that but in some experiments I

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actually had the non healer read a book

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so that were the results so the Sham

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healing that was my question

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I understood the method yeah oh sorry

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there well the data was presented as the

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as the per the percent inhibition and oh

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I see relative to the control yeah but

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the Sham healer compared to the Leonard

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Lascaux right the magnitude of the

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effect was taken into account and I

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actually did the difference between the

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healing and the non healing modes I

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don't have the raw data this is kind of

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what you're asking on that magnitude of

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the effect I have to remember what the

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raw data was it was it wasn't it was a

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nominal effect and I subtracted that out

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from the data so I showed you the effect

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that was due to the healer but yes I